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Post by grownups4greyson on Apr 30, 2011 4:36:50 GMT -5
Just found this guy's You Tube posts from the show at the Historic Synagogue. Best quality I've seen yet. The guy's Channel says he's 70 years old but except for occasional shakiness, probably caused by overexcited fans, this could be a network broadcast. The screaming is there so you get the feel and excitement, but the Lyrics are still clear. Great work for a hand held camera. Close up, great lighting, great sound. Even the "countdown" goes perfect. Wish we had this one last week when we were trying to post lyric vids. Only strange thing is the menorahs in the background and "Unfriend U" is missing. I'm watching this between sentences as I type & all I can say is "Just DAMN, He's GOOD!!!! Being able to see Greyson's theatrical facial expressions on "Heart Like Stone", and smiling expression when the crowd reacts to the start of "Light Up The Dark" is priceless! As you'll hear Greyson say, "Its HOT in here!, Its DAMN Hot in here. (Shame on you, Greyson). I recommend watching these in FULL SCREEN or saving them from You Tube to your computer & later watching in full screen. Almost like being there. Opening: Opening Contd./Heart Like Stone/ Light Up The Dark/Fire: Papparazzi: Empire State of Mind (New York): Waiting Outside The Lines: Everybody needs to go on this guy's Channel & THANK HIM! www.youtube.com/user/MrJohnNeumannPlease add your thoughts below.
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Post by retiredone on Apr 30, 2011 14:48:53 GMT -5
I like the closeups in Mr. Neumann's videos, but I think my favorite videos are still those posted to Youtube by "jarrydlovr96" from the NYCB theatre in Westbury, NY. After viewing them, I immediately burned them to DVD. I can watch the DVD and feel like I'm at his concert all over again. All 7 of Greyson's songs are there (2 trimmed a bit) and 3 or 4 of Cody Simpson's. If I run out of things to do, maybe I'll edit my video and insert some of the closeups from Mr. Neumann. www.youtube.com/user/jarrydlovr96
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Post by grownups4greyson on Apr 30, 2011 15:08:12 GMT -5
I like the closeups in Mr. Neumann's videos, but I think my favorite videos are still those posted to Youtube by "jarrydlovr96" from the NYCB theatre in Westbury, NY. After viewing them, I immediately burned them to DVD. I can watch the DVD and feel like I'm at his concert all over again. All 7 of Greyson's songs are there (2 trimmed a bit) and 3 or 4 of Cody Simpson's. If I run out of things to do, maybe I'll edit my video and insert some of the closeups from Mr. Neumann. www.youtube.com/user/jarrydlovr96If you do that, please email me a copy. Thanks
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Post by greysonchancefans on Apr 30, 2011 20:11:03 GMT -5
This is from February on the Miranda Cosgrove tour. I think this is the best fan video that I have seen so far...video wise Sound is not as good and the girls aren't screaming as much yet but you do have a great point of view, the camera is steady and it's in hi def (:
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Post by djtiny on May 1, 2011 0:14:22 GMT -5
Awesome, These are a great find greysonchancefansWow that is a nice video, However sound will forever be a problem unless a seperate peripheral microphone is used, which most consumer video cameras don't support, and would probably get you the stink eye from security/managment. And then again, the same would happen if you bring in a pro camera However the audio in that one is still very good comparingly. It does get drounded out, but at least the microphone on the camera didn't distort at all like most do. Most likely going along witht he fact that that camera must of been a pretty nice one. I don't understand why they don't professionaly record and sell copies of tours. Audio would be perfect if it got a feed from the main mixing board, and video quality only limited by how much they spend doing it. I did notice that someone that seemed to be 'in' with the managment at the W4U performance I went to set up a real camera in a restricted area for one of the opening acts.
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Post by djtiny on May 1, 2011 0:22:07 GMT -5
Sorry for the double post,
I particulary like this recording of HoS, although the screaming is pretty consistant it doesn't overwhelm the rest of the track too bad.
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Post by mapender on May 1, 2011 14:42:02 GMT -5
Sorry for the double post, I particulary like this recording of HoS, although the screaming is pretty consistant it doesn't overwhelm the rest of the track too bad. Yeah, that is the one that I put on the MP3 index b/c it seems like the best recording so far. None of them are great, but it will have to do for now. I think I also used that "Light Up the Dark" but I am not sure if there are better versions of that song out there or not. I didn't feel like combing through a million videos yesterday to find one.
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Post by grownups4greyson on May 1, 2011 18:31:42 GMT -5
Awesome, These are a great find greysonchancefansWow that is a nice video, However sound will forever be a problem unless a seperate peripheral microphone is used, which most consumer video cameras don't support, and would probably get you the stink eye from security/managment. And then again, the same would happen if you bring in a pro camera I don't know enough about this. You are probably the expert here. But what about a wireless mic clipped on your shirt? Would that work any better. Next idea would be to get a Front Row Balcony seat & hope they don't notice you way up there with a pro-cam. I think their concern is not so much posting on You Tube but people that would take the HQ recordings & start selling Bootleg DVD's. They don't sell concert DVD's because they want you to buy tickets and come to the show. Unless you are huge like MJ or McCartney & they know you will come anyway.
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Post by djtiny on May 1, 2011 19:39:28 GMT -5
Awesome, These are a great find greysonchancefansWow that is a nice video, However sound will forever be a problem unless a seperate peripheral microphone is used, which most consumer video cameras don't support, and would probably get you the stink eye from security/managment. And then again, the same would happen if you bring in a pro camera I don't know enough about this. You are probably the expert here. But what about a wireless mic clipped on your shirt? Would that work any better. Next idea would be to get a Front Row Balcony seat & hope they don't notice you way up there with a pro-cam. I think their concern is not so much posting on You Tube but people that would take the HQ recordings & start selling Bootleg DVD's. They don't sell concert DVD's because they want you to buy tickets and come to the show. Unless you are huge like MJ or McCartney & they know you will come anyway. I do work with live audio and recording a lot for work and schooling. Hmm, I a wireless condensor mic would probably work for concealment. But unless the camera has a microphone input, not too sure what could be done with it. Unless you record the entire thing with a seperate camera and audio recorder then lining up the two shouldn't be to hard but it may be a little risky. Also not sure your reasoning behind the wireless? If you were to use a wireless mic you would need a transmiter and reciever which usually is AC powered. (Wall outlet) But whats known as a "lavalier" mic (Photo below) would be the best external microphone to use for both concealment and quality. A pro one of these will run you about $200-$400 though. However you can find lesser quality ones for under $100.
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Post by mapender on May 2, 2011 10:45:09 GMT -5
You guys are so primitive. Don't you know the real bootleggers film it with a good digital camera of some sorts, but then dub the audio through stolen IEM feeds. People who have the equipment set up outside the venue somewhere and trace the wireless signals and record the sounds coming over them. I know Greyson wears IEMs and I'm sure some of the band does as well
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Post by djtiny on May 2, 2011 12:57:43 GMT -5
Hmm, short of being completely illegal, yes I'm keeping it pretty simple However, that does bring up an interesting topic, if you where to have a wideband wireless reciever and know the wireless frequency of greyson's transmitter you might have something there >
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Post by mapender on May 2, 2011 19:38:47 GMT -5
Hmm, short of being completely illegal, yes I'm keeping it pretty simple However, that does bring up an interesting topic, if you where to have a wideband wireless reciever and know the wireless frequency of greyson's transmitter you might have something there > Oh yeah, I was dead serious about how they do it. Not that I understand it, but the best bootleg recordings that aren't from radio broadcasts (which I guess aren't really bootlegs) are the ones where they take a "normal" audience recording and mix it with an IEM recording. The audience recording gives the atmosphere of the crowd (applause, participation, etc.) while the IEM allows them to bring out the sound of the band better than just the audience recording. I have no idea how the people that do it have the time or money to do it, but months after a show they will released them and they sound almost as good as an official release. Springsteen is one of the most heavily bootlegged artists of all time b/c no two shows are the same b/c he is always playing random stuff and changing up the setlist. Also, b/c he sucks in the studio and no really big fan listens to his studio recordings... it is all about the live show. Therefore, I can at least kind of keep up when talking about bootlegs and what you are looking for in them. However, I was kidding about us trying to go about getting the recordings in this manner. I think we can just hope that as he gets bigger more copies of his shows surface. For now the YouTube videos will do. I am going on Thursday and I still haven't decided if I am going to try and tape or not. I kind of don't want to, but then I feel kind of selfish not at least attempting to get some good footage, but some pretty decent stuff has turned up recently like those posted at the top of the thread.
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Post by djtiny on May 2, 2011 19:54:19 GMT -5
Hmm, short of being completely illegal, yes I'm keeping it pretty simple However, that does bring up an interesting topic, if you where to have a wideband wireless reciever and know the wireless frequency of greyson's transmitter you might have something there > Oh yeah, I was dead serious about how they do it. Not that I understand it, but the best bootleg recordings that aren't from radio broadcasts (which I guess aren't really bootlegs) are the ones where they take a "normal" audience recording and mix it with an IEM recording. The audience recording gives the atmosphere of the crowd (applause, participation, etc.) while the IEM allows them to bring out the sound of the band better than just the audience recording. I have no idea how the people that do it have the time or money to do it, but months after a show they will released them and they sound almost as good as an official release. Springsteen is one of the most heavily bootlegged artists of all time b/c no two shows are the same b/c he is always playing random stuff and changing up the setlist. Also, b/c he sucks in the studio and no really big fan listens to his studio recordings... it is all about the live show. Therefore, I can at least kind of keep up when talking about bootlegs and what you are looking for in them. However, I was kidding about us trying to go about getting the recordings in this manner. I think we can just hope that as he gets bigger more copies of his shows surface. For now the YouTube videos will do. I am going on Thursday and I still haven't decided if I am going to try and tape or not. I kind of don't want to, but then I feel kind of selfish not at least attempting to get some good footage, but some pretty decent stuff has turned up recently like those posted at the top of the thread. Hehe yeah I would not wan't do do that to Greyson. But it really is something simple to do. It just takes a lot of planning to execute. If you have someone inside recording that can get close enough to the monitor-console (Most tours have two mixers, a monitor console and a main console) to see the frequincys displayed on the recievers, the person outside just needs to enter in the number and they will get a feed of it. Granted if you wanted to do it good, you would need multipul tracks being recorded/mixed into one, because Greyson may only have his vocals going to his IEM. OR on the other end of the spectrum, if you where a hater, you could do the reverse and use a transmittor tuned to the same frequincy as one of their wireless mic recievers and well, you get the point. And honostly, I wouldn't bother recording, I sure wish I didn't. You will enjoy the show a lot more. All I got was some crappy recordings too.
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Post by greysonchancefans on May 3, 2011 10:07:33 GMT -5
A lot of the decent videos by fans are using Flip like cameras. of course some hold the camera wrong (portrait rather than landscape)
So I bought a $199 Sony Bloggie - its a 1080P camera, better than the 720P Flip so hopefully better... I will find out tonight when I go to the House of Blues tonight here in Orlando. It's SRO so location in the crowd could be an issue lol
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Post by grownups4greyson on May 31, 2011 11:06:34 GMT -5
The vids in this thread are my favorite sest of Greyson's concert vids. Perhaps they should be added to the Video Database thread.
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